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ronniewallace
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: Scottish National Chess League |
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With only four club members prepared to regularly participate I find it now hard to justify remaining in this league.
One solution would be to field a joint team with another club should that club have enough players willing to take part. |
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robert kelso
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: SNCL Team |
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That would be a pity, but if you can't get the players then we obviously can't continue to play. If fielding a joint team allows those who want to play to do so then I say go for it.
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Ian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Ronnie,
This is something for the AGM. If we were to amalgamate, the questions are [i] with whom and [ii] (to echo George's concern on another thread) which of the four players who have given the club their regular support over the years would become supernumerary? This would not be some chancer joining for the lure of a game, this would be a shotgun wedding. |
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ronniewallace
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Ronnie,
This is something for the AGM.
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I agree it's not something we're going to decide at the notice board
but it's something we need to think about due to the level of support
the tournament is receiving from club players.
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If we were to amalgamate, the questions are [i] with whom and [ii] (to echo George's concern on another thread) which of the four players who have given the club their regular support over the years would become supernumerary? This would not be some chancer joining for the lure of a game, this would be a shotgun wedding. |
Having a pool of four players is not sustainable, we have been lucky this year in that all four have always been available but this may not always be the case. We need more people willing to take part in our team whether they be Cumbernauld players or from another club. An official link up with another club would have the benefit of sharing league fees. I'm open to suggestions to improve matters as I'm not sure that I can commit to being the team captain for the SNCL next year. |
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Ian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| We need more people willing to take part in our team whether they be Cumbernauld players or from another club. |
Maybe we need to find out why people can't play in the SNCL. Personally, I am always astonished that the four SNCL Sundays always seem to coincide with weekends when people are unavoidably otherwise committed. Maybe the odd occasion, yes, but year after year? As a constructive suggestion, how about canvassing those members who regularly decline to play in the SNCL to see what their reasons are so that perhaps we can draw up a pool in advance of who might be available on the specific SNCL dates?
Glasgow League commitment = 8 players x 9 dates at 4/5 different venues. SNCL = 5 players x 4 dates at 1 venue. I've thought and thought about this and fail to see how, if we can manage the former, and be rewarded for our commitment and efforts, we can't manage the latter. Anyone got any ideas? |
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George Thomson
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: SNCL |
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I do not know about others, but I know that David Johnstone does not play because it is on a Sunday.
Being a good Christian he will not play on a Sunday. I respect his views very much.
Perhaps we have a few secret Christians who share David' views about playing on a Sunday. 
I do not consider Chess to be work therefore I don't feel the need to miss out on religious grounds.
Chess is only Work when you are involved in Study.
Some tough games could be considered to be work I suppose. |
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Ian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Being a good Christian he will not play on a Sunday. |
Valid comment. Neither Fischer nor Reshevsky would play on a Saturday. |
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robert kelso
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: SNCL |
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| Ian wrote: |
| I am always astonished that the four SNCL Sundays always seem to coincide with weekends when people are unavoidably otherwise committed. |
I am as well, I have been willing to play in the SNCL but on every occaision Ronnie has looked for players I have had family commitments, sod's law. 
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DavidJ
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: sundays |
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just to be clear - i don't consider chess work - it is mainly a priority thing about church on Sundays - basically sunday is a rest day for me - number 6 of 10  but i've always been a bit unsure about leasure activities in practice etc. |
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Ian
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| I've been mulling this over..........Mark, George, Ronnie & I were the four regulars this season (and last, pretty much), ergo we only need one other player on four Sundays out of the year. Surely that is doable, even if player no. 5 is a rolling selection from the others who make up our other league teams. Surely one of 4,5,6 others (say) could commit to one Sunday!? |
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ronniewallace
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Ian wrote: |
| I've been mulling this over..........Mark, George, Ronnie & I were the four regulars this season (and last, pretty much), ergo we only need one other player on four Sundays out of the year. Surely that is doable, even if player no. 5 is a rolling selection from the others who make up our other league teams. Surely one of 4,5,6 others (say) could commit to one Sunday!? |
You really need 5 regulars and then a few others able to play the odd match for it to be feasible as sometimes the regulars can't always make it on certain dates. |
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Ian
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| You really need 5 regulars and then a few others able to play the odd match for it to be feasible as sometimes the regulars can't always make it on certain dates. |
Granted, Ronnie, but what I meant was that if only one other player could definitely commit to one Sunday, that would deal with the immediate problem. Also, in an earlier post, it was what I was getting at when I suggested canvassing members to see who in general would be available. One definite for each of the Sundays, plus a pool of "availables", would/could ensure Cumbernauld's independent survival!? |
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ronniewallace
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Stirling are having to use players from Grangemouth to field a team, the latter having dropped out of the league due to insufficient numbers. We could approach Sirling and Grangemouth to see if the three of us wanted to join together to enter two teams, with ourselves say becoming Central A and Stirling Central B. |
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George Thomson
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: SNCL |
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Why not put a request for a "COMMITED TEAM MEMBER" as oppossed to occasional team member on the Chess Scotland Noticeboard?
Given that the average availability of some Cumbernauld players is POOR,they should not complain if we need to field a player from another team.
Unless of course some other player is prepared top offer Ronnie the Commitment that the other SNCL players have offered in the past.
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Ian
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| We could approach Sirling and Grangemouth to see if the three of us wanted to join together to enter two teams |
What division would the new beasts start out in? Div. 4, or would we retain our "Cumbernauld" status, be it in 2 or 3? |
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