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G2: Hamilton C 2-5 Cumbernuald

 
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ronniewallace
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: G2: Hamilton C 2-5 Cumbernuald Reply with quote

Board 1 B 1705 O`Donnell, Matthew A V A Marks, Ian A 1919
Board 2 W 1573 Hanley, Michael 0.5 V 0.5 Bonella, David 1622
Board 3 B 1492 Mulholland, Arthur L 0.0 V 1.0 Johnstone, David 1610
Board 4 W 1370 Frame, Jim H 0.5 V 0.5 MacAree, John 1555
Board 5 B 1299 Scott, Donald 0.0 V 1.0 Wallace, Ronnie 1517
Board 6 W 1239 Petrie, Fiona 0.5 V 0.5 Kerr, Gary 1462
Board 7 B 1070 McKinney, Stephen 0.0 V 1.0 Thomson, George 1397
Board 8 W 1035 Hampton, Chris R 0.5 V 0.5 Hendry, Paul 1306

Matthew is claiming a draw.


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George Thomson



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Draws Reply with quote

I know that I,m not in a position to talk about draws.
But what's with all the giveaway draws?
It must be that Christmas Spirit everyone keeps talking about!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: not quite Reply with quote

more like Christmas Spirits Wink

Ian i wouldn't mind seeing your final position/moves - if you don't mind- not sure about the protocol of posting while a game is in adjudication
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robert kelso
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Ian's Position Reply with quote

Wasn't there but I believe the position was as follows:


With less than 2 minutes on the clocks!!
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Ian



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Robert,

You must have ESP Very Happy Yep, that's the position, with Black to play. (Folks - please note that the board here has Black at the bottom!) Time left - White (me) 2:00 mins, Black 0:30 secs.

I don't know about the protocol of discussing a position that has gone for adjudication, but Dvoretsky observes that "with a knight pawn, winning positions occur very often". The classic example of the winning method is Botvinnik-Minev, Amsterdam Olympiad 1954. Another tremendous example is Nakamura-Arakhamia Grant at Gibraltar earlier this year, where the American super-GM (2651!) didn't know the best defensive try and Keti won nicely.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Draw Claim Reply with quote

Ian I reckon that this is a clear win as the black king is so far from your advance. White can pop the Queens of and get another Quickly.
It's very very like my win against Bernard Cassidy in this years Scottish Championships. Which attracted quite a crowd of spectators as I recall.
I had just sacked a bishop in order to get to more or less this position and I think poor old Bernard thought that he could hold it like M.O.
I took a lot of satisfaction winning that one what with the audience and the fact that Bernard is pretty solid generally (at my level).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: quite interesting finish Reply with quote

thnx ian, here are the games you mention

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032347

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032089

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1448180
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hamilton have decided not to go to adjudication and so Ian's game will go down as a win for us making the final score 6-2.
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Ian



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hamilton have decided not to go to adjudication
Tough game, all credit to Matthew. I spent a-g-e-s looking at the position. The closest to my game I could find is Barlov-Soltis, New York Open 1988, good practical play from both sides but still 1-0 in 109 [!]. Well worth a look (start about move 62).
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